tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post5657042668606544683..comments2023-10-25T05:30:54.507-04:00Comments on Oh Get A Grip!: Love, Sex and Artificial IntelligenceAshe Barkerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03390519279886657608noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post-74640007133510117302009-04-27T08:36:00.000-04:002009-04-27T08:36:00.000-04:00This was so intelligently written that it made my ...This was so intelligently written that it made my head spin the first time I read it. I really wish I'd had internet connection on Saturday so I could have responded then! But my thoughts on this are that you're right on the nail. People do respond to minimalist recreations of emotion (and research has shown that animals will respond in similar fashion!). We fall in love with anything we can anthropomorphize, be it a doll or cartoon character or a computer simulation. Yet for that emotion to really be love, there has to be the risk of rejection.<br /><br />Strangely enough, people already engage in relationships where they feel love for someone but say so and thus never run the risk of being rejected. I wonder if these would be the same people who would buy into having a robot lover, but only up until the point where the robot could say no.<br /><br />Thank you again for being our guest this week!Helenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10832774182683343435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post-51798852897192820222009-04-25T21:06:00.000-04:002009-04-25T21:06:00.000-04:00Thanks for coming on our little list. Very ineter...Thanks for coming on our little list. Very inetersting post on an ineteresting subject.<br /><br />You say you think its preposterous for people to relate intimately to an artficial construct. I don;t think I agree with that, considering how I've seen people relate to their pets, including non mammals like fish and turtles. <br /><br />I think the real problems will begin if and when people do relate to machines, and I predict a lot of the problems will come from religious people. Why does religion hate evolution so much, compared to say, the law of gravity? No fundamentalist of any religion denies the law of gravity. You won;t find anyone who works in virology who denies evolution by natural selction. But the idea takes man, and places him among the animals, rather than at the center of a celestial universe powered by the love of God. This drives religious people crazy, the way Galaileo did when he said the earth is not the divine center of the heavens, it just goes around the sun like every other planet.<br /><br />The point that you bring up (Helen said) about a sex toy being able to say no, I think is really interesting. That would add the third dimension. Lisabet said something in response to my post, that sexbots would be appealing to men who are afraid of women, or afraid of rejection because it eliminates the element of independence. That of course is why men patronise prostitutes. Hookers do two things 1) Pay the fee and they don;t reject you. 2) When you're finished they go away. On an emotional level nothing could be more safe and appealing for some men. A sexual Happy Toy. Robots could do that too, but as I explored in a story called "The Doll", that can get dull. A sexbot that can have a headache would be really interesting.<br /><br />GarceGarceushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11160407485298015371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post-548143441863736532009-04-25T12:47:00.000-04:002009-04-25T12:47:00.000-04:00Thanks for bringing your thoughts to the Grip, Tho...Thanks for bringing your thoughts to the Grip, Thomas. I love my computer, too, and sometimes hate it. But that's about the extent of the emotion. <br /><br />The 'sex and technology' views this week have been enlightening and fun.<br /><br />Take care!<br /><br />JamieAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post-538346216554134552009-04-25T07:03:00.000-04:002009-04-25T07:03:00.000-04:00Greetings, Thomas,
Welcome to the Grip, and thank...Greetings, Thomas,<br /><br />Welcome to the Grip, and thank you for your thought-provoking post.<br /><br />I find that it echoes some of my comments in response to Garce's post on Wednesday. I can't imagine wanting a sex bot that couldn't think for itself and have its own desires and pet peeves. I suppose if AI ever gets to that point, it will be indistinguishable from humanity, and I wouldn't care.<br /><br />Meanwhile, Helen's stick figure animations illustrate your other point. Her cartoons are minimally realistic, yet they succeed remarkably well in conveying emotion. We are hardwired to seek emotional responses and to fill in the blanks, as you put it, when the information is incomplete.<br /><br />Best,<br />LisabetLisabet Saraihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05162514190572269660noreply@blogger.com