tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post6668649993352036423..comments2023-10-25T05:30:54.507-04:00Comments on Oh Get A Grip!: Thinking Out LoudAshe Barkerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03390519279886657608noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post-72480242848248223322011-11-03T22:06:51.341-04:002011-11-03T22:06:51.341-04:00Hi Kathleen
I think for me the key point what be ...Hi Kathleen<br /><br />I think for me the key point what be what you said about whether sex drives the plot. To me that defines erotica, a story where sex isn;t just painted on but rather without ut the story falls apart.<br /><br />GarceGarceushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11160407485298015371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post-11920885575076994212011-11-02T09:27:25.696-04:002011-11-02T09:27:25.696-04:00Shar - *long sigh* they always do.Shar - *long sigh* they always do.Kathleen Bradeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06347913255760493335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post-55739205644527566492011-11-02T00:04:10.259-04:002011-11-02T00:04:10.259-04:00LOL Kathleen, I'll pass, thank you! (on being ...LOL Kathleen, I'll pass, thank you! (on being introduced to bad writers who call themselves "literary"). Of course, they'll probably track me down on their own...Sharazadehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15770022203256855126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post-41209015711202927832011-11-01T11:29:09.270-04:002011-11-01T11:29:09.270-04:00Lisabet - While the "who cares" point is...Lisabet - While the "who cares" point is indeed seductive, I try to encourage as much discussion about erotica as I can because the rest of the literary world is sorely in need of enlightenment. (and the sniping between erotica genres isn't a pretty picture either)Kathleen Bradeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06347913255760493335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post-1675502741793804892011-11-01T01:12:50.088-04:002011-11-01T01:12:50.088-04:00"It's almost impossible to start a discus..."It's almost impossible to start a discussion about the many different genre styles: romance, literary, mystery, paranormal, contemporary within erotica with readers and writers and wondered why that was."<br /><br />In my experience, WRITERS will discuss this till the cows come home! (Just look at us here at the Grip!) READERS don't really care, imho, as long as they're entertained, challenged or amazed by what they are reading. Genres are primarily a marketing device, not something fundamental.<br /><br />I'd like to say that what makes something "literary" is a mix of originality in conception and expressive skill in execution - but I'm not really sure that captures the distinction. <br /><br />Sometimes I just want to throw up my hands and say - who cares? I'd like my writing to get more respect, and I do think my work (especially my short stories) tend more into that vague "literary" area - but ultimately I'm going to write what I write, regardless of what it's called.Lisabet Saraihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05162514190572269660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post-69901055048059737732011-10-31T15:17:15.393-04:002011-10-31T15:17:15.393-04:00Shar - allow me to introduce you to many bad write...Shar - allow me to introduce you to many bad writers who claim the literary title.<br /><br />Although you may have something there with the reticence writers without MFAs feel toward calling their work literary. I always want to shout "Come on folks, literary fiction just a genre like westerns or mysteries. Don't be intimidated!"Kathleen Bradeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06347913255760493335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post-10762621142041961792011-10-31T15:13:24.765-04:002011-10-31T15:13:24.765-04:00Kristina - Maybe. Or a best-seller with jsut the r...Kristina - Maybe. Or a best-seller with jsut the right cross-over audience and an enraged NYT review.Kathleen Bradeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06347913255760493335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post-86997220933270996672011-10-31T14:49:45.099-04:002011-10-31T14:49:45.099-04:00I think there's a flavor of "literature i...I think there's a flavor of "literature is higher," somehow, if you know what I mean--more intellectual, more worthy, harder to write, and not merely a different genre. That makes it harder for one to claim the label for one's self, it seems to me. It's like someone else has to bestow it upon you; whereas anyone can say they write erotica.<br /><br />Now I wonder what (if anything) Miller and Nin said at the time about their own writing.Sharazadehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15770022203256855126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post-49508500565502951002011-10-31T14:29:46.212-04:002011-10-31T14:29:46.212-04:00Interesting discussion on FetLife. Anais Nin and H...Interesting discussion on FetLife. Anais Nin and Henry Miller inspired a certain amount of literary discussion, don't you think? I wonder what it would take to get the discussion going again? The notoriety of a certain author?Kristina Wrighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07206629885091637673noreply@blogger.com