tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post6478751042331481251..comments2023-10-25T05:30:54.507-04:00Comments on Oh Get A Grip!: Fame as "Recovery"Ashe Barkerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03390519279886657608noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post-87490563789448376612018-06-19T13:22:39.172-04:002018-06-19T13:22:39.172-04:00Anonymous is not Sacchi in disguise.Anonymous is not Sacchi in disguise.Jean Robertahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08805088081675965859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post-73798432612899475992018-06-19T10:02:36.876-04:002018-06-19T10:02:36.876-04:00Oops - instead of Sacchi, I meant Anonymous.Oops - instead of Sacchi, I meant Anonymous.Jean Robertahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08805088081675965859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post-72061830761172851362018-06-19T10:01:45.748-04:002018-06-19T10:01:45.748-04:00Thank you for commenting, Lisabet, Fiona, and Sacc...Thank you for commenting, Lisabet, Fiona, and Sacchi. One thing we know about Artemisia is that nothing stopped her from painting. The question of what she would have painted if she had been completely free of financial pressure is one that can be asked about male artists (including writers) as well.<br /><br />A lot can be read into Artemisia’s paintings, especially the famous one of Judith cutting off the head of her enemy, Holofernes. (Gruesome and realistic, not shown in my post. One historian claims that the trajectory of the blood could have shown the scientific influence of Galileo.)<br /><br />It’s always possible that she turned down marriage proposals after getting out of a marriage which doesn’t seem to have been a love-match. We just don’t know because so much information is missing. This in itself seems like a sign that some aspects of her life weren’t considered fit for public consumption, possibly even by Artemisia herself. (She could have destroyed letters and diaries.)<br /><br />I’m glad her art now seems to be getting the attention it deserves.<br /><br />- JeanJean Robertahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08805088081675965859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post-11362494969811447012018-06-17T17:51:10.431-04:002018-06-17T17:51:10.431-04:00Very interesting that you can even find informatio...Very interesting that you can even find information on this woman artist. Too often history is just that: his story. I get so irritated by people who claim that women just aren't as talented and never have been, especially in the arts or sciences. They ask, "Where is the female Da Vinci? Where is the female Steve Jobs? etc. I always answer that she was probably busy having babies, raising them, keeping house, and doing the 1001 things that women do to provide for their families. While the men "just" did whatever moved them. Hell, if women also had "wives" to take care of them, they could have created many great things also.<br /><br />Thanks for sharing this. I learn so much from this blog!Fiona McGierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13495707848048468428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post-23576298719242511312018-06-16T23:31:20.332-04:002018-06-16T23:31:20.332-04:00This is a fascinating account, Jean, made all the ...This is a fascinating account, Jean, made all the more cogent by your asides. <br /><br />By my standards, I'd say that Artemisia did manage to rise above the limitations of her culture, at least to some extent. Quite aside from her art (the "Susanna and the Elders" image is astonishing), she survived two child births, supported herself, successfully confronted and at least marginally punished her rapist, and extricated herself from a marriage of convenience that she probably didn't want. <br /><br />Is it not conceivable that her second child was the result of her taking a lover?<br /><br />We'll never know, of course. To me it seems unlikely that such a survivor would have committed suicide.Lisabet Saraihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05162514190572269660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post-74955320966851048652018-06-16T21:59:12.618-04:002018-06-16T21:59:12.618-04:00I'm reminded of the film "Dangerous Beaut...I'm reminded of the film "Dangerous Beauty" in which the protagonist becomes a courtesan mainly in order to have access to education. Apparently, Renaissance Italian courtesans were taught to read and write during their apprenticeship, the better to entertain learned men, whereas respectable women had no need of such knowledge.<br /><br />On the subject of "getting over it", can anyone actually define what that means? It could mean being productive and not obsessing over it continually, but it could also mean obsessing over it and talking about it loudly and often so that others might not feel so alone. I find I'm less judgmental about what "getting over it" means than I used to be.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com