tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post7154242729939011790..comments2023-10-25T05:30:54.507-04:00Comments on Oh Get A Grip!: ObscenityAshe Barkerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03390519279886657608noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post-76760791509136490132016-10-24T19:45:19.261-04:002016-10-24T19:45:19.261-04:00How to make something once considered obscene acce...How to make something once considered obscene acceptable to a large audience - that is the question. I have noticed that fanfic (written & read by a certain niche community) has produced writing that spills out into the mainstream -- such as m/m erotic romance (shades of Kirk/Spock). That seems to happen with other niche trends too, such as the gay porn (his own term) of John Preston influencing Anne Rice in the 1970s,and then she produced the phenomenon of Interview with the Vampire (a kind of FSOG in its time, but much more original and better-written). Jean Robertahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08805088081675965859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post-28534590175485812232016-10-24T08:05:22.345-04:002016-10-24T08:05:22.345-04:00I'll tell you one thing, Daddy... We've go...I'll tell you one thing, Daddy... We've got a lot of used bookstores around here, and copies of the Shades trilogy are a dime a dozen. Okay, so that means somebody did pay full price for the books originally, but suggests that there were very few people for whom the series was a keeper... Lisabet Saraihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05162514190572269660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post-58198582755345429002016-10-20T16:15:50.681-04:002016-10-20T16:15:50.681-04:00"Could be the answer to popularity is—whether..."Could be the answer to popularity is—whether or not we are able to make the ‘obscene’ not so."<br /><br />I have often thought that this is the explanation for Fifty Shades. I think it domesticated titillation, put it into a known rom com format that made the titillation feel acceptable. <br /><br />As for your rant, seconded.Annabeth Leonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07455191827664110878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post-63657814401411703302016-10-20T10:22:47.184-04:002016-10-20T10:22:47.184-04:00James had seized on an existing phenomenon by writ...James had seized on an existing phenomenon by writing fanfic for Stephanie Meyers's Twilight series. As I heard it, Shades was original written as a vampire erotic romance riffing on characters from Twilight, and her piece was so successful in that community that she "filed off the ID numbers" and turned it into Shades. Her audience was already so large that the book took off, even though some people into fanfic berated her for being so crass as to charge for her work. I think fanfic is the root of our current wave of readers who don't think they should have to pay for books. In any case, her audience was already so wide that people were reading and talking about her book so much that it became acceptable reading for "soccer moms" (a dreadful term) and a meme so prevalent that I saw the book used as a gag gift at a bridal shower where most of the family members were conservatively religious. I expect the younger ones had read it, but the point of it was as a joke. People don't mind paying for joke material. Sacchi Greenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10801164916418570059noreply@blogger.com