tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post8283396606998608239..comments2023-10-25T05:30:54.507-04:00Comments on Oh Get A Grip!: No Point in a Refill...Ashe Barkerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03390519279886657608noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post-89009197519803340472010-08-23T07:21:22.794-04:002010-08-23T07:21:22.794-04:00Hello Bryl.
I find myself in agreement with you, ...Hello Bryl.<br /><br />I find myself in agreement with you, and on both sides of the description argument. Firstly, I don't enjoy what I consider "flowery" stuff. I don't need to know the bedspread was mauve, I just need to know how it looked wrapped around her ass.<br /><br />As you said, though, erotica has different requirements at times to other fiction. I like to know she's tall for a woman or he's growing a paunch. But agreeing with you (again), it needs to be something which furthers the story. She's tall? How has that shaped her situation RIGHT NOW? He has a paunch...because...?<br /><br />Sci-fi, for instance, would go almost nowhere without descriptions, and it can get quite cyber-flowery at times. It's rarely lush description, but it's often excessive.<br /><br />Nice post.<br /><br />Cheers,<br />Willsin RoweWillsin Rowehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07255684467269187446noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post-10798750675688328962010-08-22T00:11:46.254-04:002010-08-22T00:11:46.254-04:00Hey, Bryl!
What a great post! Like Brita, I learn...Hey, Bryl!<br /><br />What a great post! Like Brita, I learned a lot from working with you on how to tighten up, trim down my MS, and breathe life into my characters.<br /><br />I find knowing I don't need excess descriptions to make my characters believable or real to the reader, very freeing indeed. I've always preferred picturing the characters I read in my head with little help from the author. Just enough to give me the basics and the rest is up to me and my experience as a reader!<br /><br />Congrats on your latest release!!Angela Nichellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03316117577189900650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post-60709345926216714782010-08-21T19:43:45.881-04:002010-08-21T19:43:45.881-04:00Thank you all for commenting and for making me lau...Thank you all for commenting and for making me laugh. Y'all at Oh Get a Grip! thanks again for having me here. I do believe I've enjoyed today.Bryl R. Tynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09716656547789198205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post-67605502315307930812010-08-21T19:39:44.542-04:002010-08-21T19:39:44.542-04:00Ha! Valerie, I'm going to say it is definitely...Ha! Valerie, I'm going to say it is definitely the genius.Bryl R. Tynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09716656547789198205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post-11731269271998797362010-08-21T19:29:33.726-04:002010-08-21T19:29:33.726-04:00To get a chuckle out of you was my intention. LOL ...To get a chuckle out of you was my intention. LOL I'm such a smart ass sometimes--weird sense of humor. I realize that everyone has their own style and I will develop my own in time. I doubt that I would want to write EXACTLY like you (especially the um... graphic stuff.) I blush too easily. he he However, I mean it when I say that I do admire your ability to say a lot in a few words. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post-4688725844469791902010-08-21T19:04:19.320-04:002010-08-21T19:04:19.320-04:00I could have written this almost to the letter. Ei...I could have written this almost to the letter. Either we're serious curmudgeons or geniuses. You pick.Valerie Mannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11761558020418265338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post-46418018911214903152010-08-21T17:20:13.320-04:002010-08-21T17:20:13.320-04:00Oh, Arlene! WWBD?? Go there is you wish. Personall...Oh, Arlene! WWBD?? Go there is you wish. Personally, I would never recommend such a brazen move. What works for me, may very well not work for someone else. Seek a balance, take advice you feel works for you, ignore the rest. In the end, you have to live with yourself and your decisions. WWBD? LOL Sorry, but I got a chuckle out of that one.Bryl R. Tynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09716656547789198205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post-35736014266207728942010-08-21T17:08:31.579-04:002010-08-21T17:08:31.579-04:00Thanks, Michelle. Yes, and I would've never gu...Thanks, Michelle. Yes, and I would've never guessed bringing up one's pet peeves could generate such fun either. Interesting week of posts. I've enjoyed reading them all.Bryl R. Tynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09716656547789198205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post-29861986951059029312010-08-21T17:03:20.807-04:002010-08-21T17:03:20.807-04:00One thing that has always impressed me about you B...One thing that has always impressed me about you Bryl is your ability to be down-to-earth and considerate. You are not a Diva. I'm with you on the long descriptions. I have to admit that I often skim through them too so I can get on with the story. Your unique ability to write succinctly, but with such emotion blows me away. I'm in the infant stages of learning to be a writer, but when approaching one of my WIPs I find myself wondering WWBD? How would he describe this scene? Then I go back and take out half the words. LOL Thank you for what I've learned from your wonderful stories.Arlenenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post-24216378371409934962010-08-21T15:40:20.122-04:002010-08-21T15:40:20.122-04:00Bryl -- Thanks so much for joining us this week. ...Bryl -- Thanks so much for joining us this week. See, told you that you would have fun with this topic. : )Michelle Houston/Houston Michaelshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04046927781480479979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post-79202730206815779362010-08-21T15:06:14.199-04:002010-08-21T15:06:14.199-04:00Thanks, Kathleen.
I'm not referring to new au...Thanks, Kathleen.<br /><br />I'm not referring to new authors. When I first started, I did that myself--sent in a MS thinking it was the best thing since sliced bread... only to open it up three months later after a rejection and cringe in disgust wondering how in the world I ever thought I knew how to write.<br /><br />But when authors who've been published and edited over and again still push out story after story into an editor's hands incorrectly formatted, unpolished, etc., in effect, dumping the extra work on the editor, it gets rather tedious.<br /><br />I confess, on occasion, I too have done this when behind on my deadlines. As with any ill-prepared business transaction though, I showed a lack or respect for my work and my publisher by doing so. I'm just grateful they've chosen to put up with me.<br /><br />I would hope that once an author's been through a couple rounds of edits, he or she would grasp what to look for in his or her future writing, learn something for the next time.Bryl R. Tynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09716656547789198205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post-66625908146597278532010-08-21T14:06:31.731-04:002010-08-21T14:06:31.731-04:00Bryl - Welcome to the Grip. Thank you for an insig...Bryl - Welcome to the Grip. Thank you for an insightful post. <br /><br />I wonder sometimes if writers who send in an unpolished MS realize that it isn't ready for publication. How annoying is that?Kathleen Bradeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06347913255760493335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post-37913966268611554372010-08-21T13:47:56.517-04:002010-08-21T13:47:56.517-04:00I didn't think you aimed it at me. I was teasi...I didn't think you aimed it at me. I was teasing. For questions, wait till you open up the MS!!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08770060882041443770noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post-87037779530630138752010-08-21T13:34:10.958-04:002010-08-21T13:34:10.958-04:00Brita, sweet Brita...
You are too kind, but I don...Brita, sweet Brita...<br /><br />You are too kind, but I don't think it's the newbie questions that get to me. How else would we learn? <br /><br />To answer you question, right off hand, I don't recall excessive description in your story, no. Do know that this post is not aimed toward any one person.Bryl R. Tynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09716656547789198205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post-51127450493147769202010-08-21T12:19:27.580-04:002010-08-21T12:19:27.580-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08770060882041443770noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post-35189408197066030442010-08-21T12:19:01.678-04:002010-08-21T12:19:01.678-04:00Hi Bryl,
I don't find you a diva at all, quite...Hi Bryl,<br />I don't find you a diva at all, quite patient during our editing, answering all my questions and there are many! I pretend I don't hear your huffing in exasperation at yet another newbie question.<br /><br />You know I love your writing and I am learning much from you being my editor. I am blessed indeed, and to my daughter's disgust, I did the happy dance when I got your email telling me we were to work together. <br /><br />I can't guarantee you I totally understand passive sentences, but I am trying, promise. <br /><br />Descriptions, we differ, slightly, but since I write historicals, I think the time period needs to be established. I didn't over do it though did I?<br /><br />This was a great article. I enjoyed it and I enjoy knowing I am not the only one who has a list of pet peeves. Oh, to get me started...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08770060882041443770noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post-55068554110524814902010-08-21T11:14:54.147-04:002010-08-21T11:14:54.147-04:00Not sure one can judge a "best way", Gar...Not sure one can judge a "best way", Garce, other than to remember not to waste one word. If it adds nothing to the story, no point in it being there.<br /><br />Some of my readers claim they want to know more about my characters... I'm sure they're happy when I tell them I write the way I do on purpose.<br /><br />One truly pulled into one of my stories must resonate with the character and his actions/reactions. The rest is up for reader interpretation in most cases. I admit, I do have a "I must know the height" fetish. Other than that, anything goes.<br /><br />Thanks for your comments, Garce.Bryl R. Tynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09716656547789198205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post-92074209233333861772010-08-21T11:06:37.674-04:002010-08-21T11:06:37.674-04:00Thanks, Ash...
Not a diva, and The Diva doesn'...Thanks, Ash...<br />Not a diva, and <i>The Diva</i> doesn't quite fit.<br />Understood. Completely. <br />BrylBryl R. Tynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09716656547789198205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post-42199345638601913012010-08-21T10:49:27.090-04:002010-08-21T10:49:27.090-04:00Hi Bryl!
Welcome to the Grip.
I thought that was...Hi Bryl!<br /><br />Welcome to the Grip.<br /><br />I thought that was particularly interesting what you said about description. In my stories I'm often very short on description and I'm always worried that people want me to describe everybody's appearance. In some of my story I never describe the character at all. Other writers describe a lot, and I'm not sure which way is best. Hemingway wrote stories in which there is no description at all. Other prominent writers pack it in as soon as the characters appear. Raymond Chandler made it part of his signature style (“a big man but not more than six feet five inches tall and not wider than a beer truck.”).<br /><br />I've been cruising around the Smutters Lounge at ERWA this morning and I'm reminded again how much good material there is out there from writers like yourself that I can learn from. Thanks for coming to our blog.<br /><br />GarceGarceushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11160407485298015371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post-79277095356849363022010-08-21T09:03:36.593-04:002010-08-21T09:03:36.593-04:00Bryl,
Excellent post. And I have to second Lisab...Bryl,<br /><br />Excellent post. And I have to second Lisabet's comments. After reading all the peeves this week, I am now panicking that I'm bugging some poor reader with my bad writing habits.<br /><br />Best,<br /><br />Ash (who is also not a diva, no matter what anyone says)Ashley Listerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11997769708965362938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post-87593709512408814712010-08-21T08:00:19.178-04:002010-08-21T08:00:19.178-04:00I'll bet I'm someone else's pet peeve&...<i>I'll bet I'm someone else's pet peeve"</i><br /><br />I think that goes for all of us, Lisabet. It's inevitable we piss someone off at some time. Hell, I'm pretty sure I do it just by breathing, most days.<br /><br />Thanks for having me here today.Bryl R. Tynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09716656547789198205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post-85165262110795986012010-08-21T06:48:25.850-04:002010-08-21T06:48:25.850-04:00Love your covers, Bryl!
And yes, when I was writi...Love your covers, Bryl!<br /><br />And yes, when I was writing my post, I kept thinking, "I'll bet I'm someone else's pet peeve".<br /><br />Thanks for joining us at the Grip!<br /><br />Warmly,<br />LisabetLisabet Saraihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05162514190572269660noreply@blogger.com