tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post9212093950855134033..comments2023-10-25T05:30:54.507-04:00Comments on Oh Get A Grip!: DiscipleAshe Barkerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03390519279886657608noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post-74980764836211029342015-10-11T19:11:13.687-04:002015-10-11T19:11:13.687-04:00Lisabet, this story is brilliant.Lisabet, this story is brilliant.Jean Robertahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08805088081675965859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post-7756620124170036392015-10-09T15:05:32.097-04:002015-10-09T15:05:32.097-04:00Heinlein influenced me hugely that way. It wasn...Heinlein influenced me hugely that way. It wasn't just Stranger. The Moon is a Harsh Mistress also painted polyamory in a way that felt very attractive to me. I've often been struck at how much overlap there is between SF fans and practitioners of polyamory. Not an obvious connection, but seemingly a common one.Annabeth Leonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07455191827664110878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post-83362463483925648432015-10-09T09:09:49.123-04:002015-10-09T09:09:49.123-04:00I'm glad I could get a smile out of you, Annab...I'm glad I could get a smile out of you, Annabeth!<br /><br />Part of my point here is that for this woman, sexuality is not a sin. And I'd like to suggest that Jesus wouldn't have necessarily viewed sex as sinful either--certainly not sex that's as generous, fulfilling, and kind as what Mariam is offering.<br /><br />Stranger in a Strange Land was one of the seminal influences on my sexuality. I read it when I was in my midteens, and I'm sure that my attraction to polyamory comes from that source. Lisabet Saraihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05162514190572269660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post-15764882906605150942015-10-07T17:03:05.908-04:002015-10-07T17:03:05.908-04:00This is a great story. It makes me smile.
I agre...This is a great story. It makes me smile. <br /><br />I agree with the point you made above that it's not clear Mary M. was a prostitute. I noticed at some point that everyone seems to assume that all female sinners in the Bible sinned sexually, but of course there are plenty of other ways to sin. What if she cried on his feet because she'd killed someone? Or stolen something? <br /><br />Also, the story reminds me a bit of the way the Jesus-type figure in Heinlein's Stranger in a Strange Land is described. Just thought I'd throw that out there.Annabeth Leonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07455191827664110878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post-41205494012429108412015-10-04T06:20:43.545-04:002015-10-04T06:20:43.545-04:00Trust you to take a historical, research-oriented ...Trust you to take a historical, research-oriented approach to this little riff, Sacchi!<br /><br />Actually, according to Wikipedia, the notion that Mary M. was a prostitute seems to stem from some conflation between her and other characters in the gospels. However, I am not convinced.Lisabet Saraihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05162514190572269660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post-65942725458362816262015-10-04T06:19:01.031-04:002015-10-04T06:19:01.031-04:00Amen, sister! Amen, sister! Lisabet Saraihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05162514190572269660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post-90732388774524459072015-10-04T06:18:43.492-04:002015-10-04T06:18:43.492-04:00Yeah. And although the notion probably horrifies s...Yeah. And although the notion probably horrifies some Christians, I'm certain he must have had the sort of charisma that translates into instant sex appeal.<br /><br />You know the Who's rock opera Tommy? That's the way I imagine Jesus. "I overwhelm as I approach you/Make your lungs hold breath inside./Lovers break caresses for me,/Love enhanced when I've gone by"...<br /><br />I was trying to capture a bit of that here.Lisabet Saraihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05162514190572269660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post-71453565437594252882015-09-29T11:18:13.778-04:002015-09-29T11:18:13.778-04:00I've been noodling about in Wikipedia for refe...I've been noodling about in Wikipedia for references to sacred whores, which isn't exactly what your story is about, but considering all the practices of older religions that Christianity incorporated (Christmas trees, etc.) I wouldn't be surprised if some early sects hung on to this one.<br /><br />This reference to Mesopotamian cultures seems appropriate here, in any case:<br /> <br />"Very little evidence for sacred prostitution in Palestine exists outside the Hebrew Bible. However for corresponding Mesopotamian cultures all prostitution could be send as sacred, because sexual acts were seen as a natural force personified in the Mesopotamian goddess. It was also the only form of economic activity in which a woman could earn a good income."Sacchi Greenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10801164916418570059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post-71972053545986671902015-09-28T23:29:36.930-04:002015-09-28T23:29:36.930-04:00I like Ghandi's comment that he likes Jesus, b...I like Ghandi's comment that he likes Jesus, but not the Christians...because they are so unlike their Christ. Never fails to amaze me that people claim to be true believers, enjoy movies about being visited by angels disguised as homeless folks, but they still lead the charge to discriminate against everyone not like them. The hypocrisy of the human race knows no bounds.<br /><br />Fiona McGierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13495707848048468428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9156334464585894857.post-34068110831156826862015-09-28T11:30:56.375-04:002015-09-28T11:30:56.375-04:00I really can't figure how they arrived at mode...I really can't figure how they arrived at modern so-called Christian thinking from Christ's life and teachings. Christ was a nice guy, a hippie who hung out with fishermen, dock workers and likely lived with a prostitute. He even brought the wine. Nicely told here, Lisabet. As much as I rail against religion, I have to problem with art inspired by faith.Daddy Xhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12927663248424944119noreply@blogger.com